one of the most -- the biggest advocates of gun rights in the united states senate. and in fact, i'm told by sources close to both senators that schumer is holding off on releasing his legislation, because he's making changes in the hopes of having a bipartisan bill with tom coburn, strictly on the issue of strength streng background checks. >> thanks very much for that report, dana. kate balduan joining us in "the situation room" as well. there's a lot of movement on this story. >> a lot of movement, a lot of conversations happening, at least, on this issue. and gabby giffords, and her husband, right after the hearing that dana bash was telling us about, she and her husband, mark kelly, they met with president obama at the white house, and the white house sent out this photo of them talking in the oval office. they were talking about, as he told you, the issue of gun control. >> and right after that meeting at the white house, mark kelly came here to "the situation room" and joined me. first of all, let's talk about your wife. how did she prepare for that? because t